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Jul
25
2007

Bad Medicine

By Buck Rampage  |  Comments (8) | Hype It Up!  |   Filed Under: Baseball | Buck Rampage Archive

BmrWith the recent news of Chris Carpenter needing season ending (and at least half of next year) Tommy John surgery, there has been an awful lot of talk regarding the St. Louis Cardinals handling of injuries. A lot of the disdain has been in the general direction of Dr. George Paletta, who is the team physician. It was Paletta who performed Carpenter’s surgery on Tuesday, to the collective gasps of Cardinal Nation. But, let’s not leave team management and even the coaching staff out of this discussion as they both always have a huge say in the running of all on and off-field operations.

Bernie Miklasz wrote about the Cards recent track history when it comes to injured players earlier this week in the Post-Dispatch. He, along with the majority of fans are concerned, and a bit miffed by the way the team has handled various injuries, rehab, etc. The way the team handles the public relations aspect has even been called into question.  

Miklasz’s main evidence consists of the treatments of Scott Rolen, Mark Mulder, and Chris Carpenter. In all three cases the team doctors (aka Dr. Paletta & Co.) diagnosed the injuries as minor problems that later turned into season ending surgeries. Rolen’s arthroscopic clean-up of the shoulder turned into reconstructive surgery after seeking outside help. Mulder was told to rest his sore shoulder and eventually needed rotator cuff surgery after a second opinion. Carpenter was also told to rest, then had bone spurs removed, and then finally, after consulting various doctors around the country needed Tommy John surgery. It’s almost as if the team physicians have been playing down injuries in order to keep players in the lineup or keep their time out of the lineup to a minimum. Or perhaps it is team management and the coaching staff playing down the injuries?

These are just three of the main examples in the last few years. There are many other instances where minor injuries actually haven’t turned into major injuries. Still, a lot of times it seems that Cardinals players have lingering injuries. Prime examples are Edmonds with his whole body and Eckstein with his back. Perhaps, if they had sufficient rest and rehab time they would come back full strength without fear of re-injuring the same body part. On the other hand, these guys are old and that could totally be the reason.

Where, if any, does the fault lie? Do we blame Dr. Paletta & Co? Or do we point our finger at management and the coaching staff? Unless you are part of that particular clubhouse culture, I’m not sure you can give a true answer. I’m sure all parties involved are to blame. They have to all be pulling each other in different directions on every decision. Maybe Paletta diagnoses correctly and then management massages him into a different opinion. That’s a highly ethical matter from both sides that I won’t get into at the moment, but the possibility exists. In any case, it appears that the team is only concerned with Production and not concerned with Production Capability. In the end, if you don’t put enough resources and attention towards Production Capability, the Production will inevitably suffer.

In all of these cases the team has been noticeably quiet when relaying information to the fans. The Cards have always seemed to keep a tight lip when it comes to discussing the varying degrees of injury to their players. I don’t like the tactic and I can’t think of anyone else that likes it either. Just lay the truth on us. We’re all adults, we can handle it. Providing false hope to your fan base is just stupid and an outright lie to those that you count on.

I know the Cardinals are not the only team that operates in this manner. This “game” is a million/billion $ business and short cuts are bound to be taken. Give me some instances of your favorite teams where something seems fishy in the injury department.


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8 Comments
Jack Cobra said

The Cubs had a similar situation with...Kerry Wood and Mark Prior a few years ago. Teams get into that 'Mike Shanahan mode' of whether or not to give out information for fear that if the do misdiagnose, people will go apeshit (which they do).

Don't the Cards have a history though of having good results from Tommy John Surgery? I know Matt Morris is one of the most successful pitchers ever to have one but I thought maybe a couple of other guys had done well for the Cards after having surgery? Maybe my memory is foggy this morning.

Morris came back effective. Not as effective as prior to the surgery. He didn't follow the myth that the surgery gives you extra MPH on pitches.

However, this is Carpenter's second Tommy John. Over at Viva El Birdos, lboros spelled out that he has heard there is around an 85% success rate on the 1st surgery and I believe it was down to like 20-25% on a second surgery. So, most likely this is the last we'll see of Carpenter as a great and perhaps even a good pitcher.

The Toronto Blue Jays also have issues with PR and injury news. The BJ Ryan injury earlier this season was the latest example.

Good post.

Joe said

Actually, lboros went back and corrected himself - Carpenter had that massive shoulder surgery that made him sit out the 2003 season. This is his first Tommy John. And he also raised the issue that while Morris was initially very good after the surgery - if I recall, better than he'd been before (this was when he and Darryl Kile had a very good run in '01 and '02,when Kile died) but eventually, though he didn't exactly break down, he was never as effective as those early post-op years. Also, he was much younger than Carp when he had the surgery. So, it still isn't a rosy prognosis.

You're right Joe. My bad for putting up that info un-checked. But still good info for the 1st and 2nd surgery % of recovery.

Definitely longer term, Morris was not the same guy. Still effective, but at the time before and around the surgery he was or was on his way to be one of the top pitchers in the league.

Bruce Paine said

Morris was not the same guy but his ability to pitch inning after inning didn't really change, did it?

I am one of those people who believe that Rolen still isn't 100% and hasn't been since the summer before the series.

Lots of franchises around the sports world are quiet on injuries. With the fear of incorrect diagnoses (Cpt Morgan is that the correct plural form of diagnose?) The influence of injuries on gambling and moral keep people quiet too. Mike Shanahan is one of the worst. Dungy and that bum in Boston are almost as bad. The NFL system for reporting injuries is a joke.

He still was a work horse starting in 2001 (surgery in 1999). He's still been up around 200 IP a year except 2003. He had two "Star" years after the surgery starting 2 years after the surgery. Since then he's just been decent.

I'm completely with you on Rolen. He is not 100% and hasn't been since he was injured.

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